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Mullen retains Grantham….but is that the right decision?

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It is probably the least pleasant part of this job to call for staff firings.

I try really hard not to do so unless it is obvious a change needs to be made. Often this means that I am seen as defending coaches who the fan base wants gone. That certainly was the case with Jim McElwain, who I defended until he threw his players under the bus after losses to LSU and Texas A&M for not executing his plan well enough.

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What it does mean is that when I’ve called for a change, I hope you know that I’ve spent a lot of time looking at film, statistics and the dynamics within the program to come to that decision. That’s why it has been a big deal for me over the past two weeks to call for a change at defensive coordinator for the Gators.

So I am a little bit surprised that head coach Dan Mullen did not come to the same conclusion. Mullen does have a reputation for being extremely loyal, but this one also seemed pretty obvious to me.

Instead, Mullen decided to dismiss secondary coaches Torrian Gray and Ron English. Certainly, the play in the secondary this year has been underwhelming. But it’s not as though you look at the defense as a unit and think it is really well coached except for the corners and safeties.

So I decided to take an even closer look, not just at Grantham’s abysmal 2020 but at his entire tenure at Florida. What is Mullen seeing that I’m not? Am I wrong to think that Grantham can’t turn things around?

Or do the underlying statistics indicate that Mullen’s loyalty is going to eventually end up causing him more headaches in the very near future?

Grantham pre-Florida hire

I wrote a big piece about Grantham’s hire right when it was announced. I think it’s helpful to revisit a couple of charts from that piece.

Comparison against FBS competition of the three years’ prior to Grantham’s arrival and during Grantham’s tenure. (Will Miles/Read and Reaction)

This first one is why I wasn’t a huge fan of the hire. Overall, Grantham has made very little difference in a whole host of stats compared to the three years prior to his arrival. Whether it’s points per game, yards per play, yards per pass or passer rating, there just wasn’t much difference between Grantham and his predecessors.

You could excuse that if he was a dynamic recruiter. After all, Jim McElwain had struggled recruiting so any addition there was going to be a big benefit.

Recruiting comparison of Grantham to the three years prior at that program. (Will Miles/Read and Reaction)

Grantham did make a little bit of a difference overall, but it was much more at the 4-star level than the 5-star level. It’s also such a slight difference that it probably should be considered negligible.

So what we had coming into Gainesville was a defensive coordinator who essentially made no difference in performance of the defense compared to his predecessors and didn’t appreciably move the needle in recruiting.

It should be pretty clear at this point why I was lukewarm on the Grantham hire back in 2018.

Florida Performance – On Field

Of course, what really mattered at that point was how Grantham’s defenses performed on the field once he got to Florida.

Often fans and pundits look at how a coach ranked against other programs, and that’s a valid way to do things. Then you can look at points per game, yards per play or even advanced metrics like S&P+ and compare. In those comparisons, Grantham’s defenses of 2018 and 2019 were pretty good.

But what if we did what I did above when he was hired and compared the previous Florida administration’s performance to Grantham’s? After all, if Grantham is really a difference maker, shouldn’t we have seen an uptick compared to Geoff Collins and Randy Shannon?

And unfortunately the answer to whether he’s making a difference is pretty clear.

On-field performance for 2015-2017 prior to Grantham’s arrival and from 2018-2020 with Grantham as Florida DC. (Will Miles/Read and Reaction)

The above chart shows Florida’s defense from 2015-2017 in the Jim McElwain era and Florida’s defense from both 2018-2020 and just 2018-2019. I included that last line just so that if anyone claimed this was just a poor 2020 for Grantham skewing results, we could compare his “good” seasons against the previous administration.

Yes, Florida had really good defenses in 2015 and 2016, but it turned into a dumpster fire in 2017 under Randy Shannon, so it shouldn’t be that hard for Grantham’s 2018 and 2019 to beat the aggregate three years, right?

Well, if you look at all three years, Grantham’s defenses are worse in points per game, yards per play, yards per rush, yards per pass, QB rating allowed and third-down conversion. His defenses are even worse in turnovers per game, which is supposed to be his specialty.

Even if you compare Grantham’s first two years to all three under McElwain, the numbers are all roughly equivalent except Grantham is still significantly worse in QB rating and third down conversion percentage allowed.

The argument against this comparison would be that Grantham’s defenses had less talent than those that McElwain stewarded with Will Muschamp’s recruits. That is actually true, but comparing the talent of those defenses – using the starters listed on the depth chart against FSU (or Alabama this year) – definitely makes this a more nuanced argument.

Talent level of starters under Todd Grantham and the previous Florida administration. (Will Miles/Read and Reaction)

It is absolutely true that Grantham’s 2018 and 2019 teams had less talent than any of the defenses that McElwain presided over. There was a lot of top-100 talent on those defenses the first two seasons and those guys played really well. Once they left, the wheels fell off in 2017.

Had I looked at Grantham’s numbers after 2018 and 2019, I would have said he did a pretty good job putting up equivalent numbers to the Gators from 2015-2017 considering he had less total talent. But that’s a problem if you’re going to try and explain away 2020.

This year’s defense had a talent level right between the 2015 and 2016 teams, whether you use star ranking, 247 ranking or national ranking. It also had three top-100 players and another four top-200 players. Perhaps not coincidently, those top-100 players (Brenton Cox, Tedarrell Slaton and Kaiir Elam) were the best players on the field, followed closely by Zachary Carter (130). The fact that Brad Stewart (150), Amari Burney (178) and Marco Wilson (183) all underperformed is a point against Grantham.

And you might make an excuse for Randy Shannon in 2017 by saying that not only did he have less talent, but it was a young defense. That is absolutely true, as he was starting true freshmen Marco Wilson, C.J. Henderson and Donovan Stiner in the defensive backfield.

Two of those three guys were starting for Grantham this year and seem to have significantly regressed. Only Henderson kept up his level of play, but he was already being talked about as an NFL prospect before Grantham ever came to town. In fact, Grantham’s defense was chock-full of experienced players this year, which is what made the awful play so maddening.

The reality is that I think it is fair to expect Grantham – if he’s really a difference-maker at defensive coordinator – to have outperformed his predecessors, or at least match them. Especially when talking about 2015 and 2016, that’s a pretty high bar, but that’s the expectation in Gainesville.

Also, it’s not like he outperformed even Randy Shannon in year three. Those Gators gave up 27.3 points per game, 27.8 in SEC play. This year’s team gave up 30.8, including 28.6 in SEC play.

Florida Performance – Recruiting

All of this would be forgivable if Grantham was making a huge difference on the recruiting trail. After all, if you stock the cupboard continuously, then we’re only a coaching change away from being elite.

Here, I do need to give Grantham some credit, as his and Mullen’s defensive recruiting is better than his predecessors, even if it lags well behind Alabama and Georgia.

Defensive recruiting record under Todd Grantham and Florida’s previous administration. (Will Miles/Read and Reaction)

Across the board, Florida’s defensive recruiting has improved under this regime. Note that this does include transfers, so guys like Brenton Cox and Jon Greenard are included and that makes a difference. But I felt I should include them because the transfer portal has become such a big part of these discussions nowadays.

But there is one huge issue with this staff’s recruiting that these numbers don’t account for: attrition.

You likely wondered why even after Donovan Stiner, Marco Wilson, Shawn Davis or Brad Stewart made multiple mistakes that they were left in the game. Well, take a look at the defensive players recruited in both 2018 and 2019 since Mullen came into the program.

Defensive recruiting attrition from the 2018 and 2019 classes under Grantham. (Will Miles/Read and Reaction)

I’ve color-coded this where green is a starter, yellow is a contributor and red is someone no longer with the program. It should jump out to you that Florida only has one starter from classes that will be heading into their true junior and senior seasons in 2021. And to have a nearly 40-percent attrition rate is a disaster, even if the vast majority of those who are gone are 3-stars.

I love 5-star commits, but 3-stars like Bryan Cox, Jr., Quincy Wilson, Joey Ivie, David Reese, Jabari Zuniga and Vosean Joseph were key cogs to some of those great Florida defenses. They weren’t all All-SEC players, but many were good, solid defenders, which is what you need when your stars need a rest or go down with an injury.

Burney and Dean are specifically guys to take note of on this list. Florida’s safeties really struggled this year (and last year too), yet Burney and Dean – who had both been recruited as safeties – were converted to other positions to paper over other holes. They haven’t become difference-makers at those positions, with the staff finally giving up and moving Dean back to safety.

So if Grantham didn’t think Jaydon Hill or Chester Kimbrough were better than any of the guys they had out there, then where were they supposed to turn? Steel and Huggins had already left the program, and Russell was out because of an unfortunate medical issue. Dean and Burney were no longer defensive backs.

To their credit, the staff recognized this issue and recruited five defensive backs in 2020. But with no spring due to COVID, there just wasn’t any way Mullen or Grantham were going to play them significant snaps given their preference to play more experienced players in general.

We saw what happened when the Gators played 11 true freshmen on defense in the Cotton Bowl against Oklahoma. But there wasn’t any middle ground once the seniors came out because the staff hadn’t recruited anyone better to step-in who was still around.

Look at that list from 2018 and 2019 again within the context of what’s coming in 2021. There is one defensive tackle on that list (Jaelin Humphries) and he has yet to record a tackle for the Gators. Kyrie Campbell has already said he is leaving. Tedarrell Slaton is likely gone as well.

When I was putting together my list of projected starters for 2021, I had no idea who to replace Campbell and Slaton with except for Gervon Dexter. The options are rather limited, as it’s either Humphries (who is injured), Dante Lang (converted TE), Lamar Goods (no tackles in 2020), Jalen Lee (2 tackles in 2020), or true freshmen 3-star recruits Desmond Watson or Christopher Thomas.

I know fans want Mullen and Co. to hit the transfer portal for offensive linemen, but if it comes down to a choice, they need to take a defensive tackle.

Remember early in the year before Campbell came back that the Gators were having to play Brenton Cox out of position at defensive end rather than Buck because they had to shift Zach Carter inside? Well, without another defensive tackle through the portal, that’s probably the solution in 2021, with Cox or Khris Bogle manning the defensive end spot. Yikes!

The addition of 5-star cornerback Jason Marshall may be enough to help the defense improve, but I don’t suspect this team is going to be able to stop the run or put the kind of pressure on the QB with the front-four that Grantham is going to want without trying to manufacture success.

So that means that we’re going to see a bunch of corner blitzes once again in 2021.

Takeaway

Grantham is coming back. I don’t agree with the decision, but Mullen’s made it and so I’m willing to see what kind of strides the defense can make with a full offseason and the guys from the 2020 recruiting class being given some playing time.

As you can see from my projected talent level, this is going to be a more talented defense than any that Florida had under Jim McElwain. But as I discussed with the defensive tackle situation, it’s going to be a really unbalanced defense.

And we just haven’t seen Grantham develop the talent he’s recruiting in any appreciable way. Eight of the starters were from the 2017 recruiting class, with one a transfer (Cox) and two from the 2019 class (Diabate and Elam).

There are places where the defense is paper thin. One separated shoulder, one torn ACL, one guy who gets unhappy and enters the transfer portal or one guy who underperforms consistently and the defense is going to have issues that it can’t rectify by bringing in the young guys or just changing things schematically.

Sounds familiar, right?

I actually don’t think it’s right to just look at Grantham’s 2020 season and call for his dismissal. The question is, how has his process been over the entire three seasons?

The fact that his veterans on defense looked so lost doesn’t give me any confidence that those problems are going to go away with younger players. They’re just going to show up on a different unit as the youth gets shifted around because the numbers are so unbalanced.

The fact that Grantham hasn’t really improved things substantially on the field compared to his predecessors at what is now four previous stops doesn’t give me much confidence that he’s a good enough teacher to make adjustments when things go a little bit haywire or a critical spot suffers an injury. We see that every year when his defenses gets picked apart by experienced QBs.

And while I admire his players putting the Oklahoma loss on them, even that is somewhat problematic. I think his starters love him because he gives them really long leashes and is loyal. But that means you have a bunch of young guys sitting on the bench wondering when it’s going to be their turn as they watch their teammates blow assignments repeatedly.

Florida took a gamble in 2020. They saw all of the attrition from 2018 and 2019 and still decided not to play the young guys from the 2020 class very much chasing a championship. Now Grantham is going to have a very young defense coming into 2021.

And that’s where I get worried because Grantham couldn’t get his experienced guys to line up correctly and now we expect him to do it with sophomores coming off of only one spring camp?

I do think Florida’s defense will be better in 2021 just due to regression to the mean, but the question I’m struggling with is how much better is good enough? If the Gators end up back to where they were in 2019 then that’s probably good enough. But what if they just give up 25 points per game in the SEC? That’s more than a three point per game improvement, but it’s still pretty bad for Florida historically.

I started this article by wondering whether there was something about Grantham that Mullen was seeing that I wasn’t. I obviously don’t have access to practice, can’t see the amount of time he’s putting into things, and don’t have a front seat to whether his players are executing his scheme appropriately.

But even when his defenses were good, they were pretty poor against quality competition. The Gators had one sack of Jake Fromm combined in the 2018 and 2019 matchups against Georgia. There were zero sacks against Joe Burrow and LSU in 2019.

So let’s go back to that first chart. Even in just 2018 and 2019, Grantham’s defenses allowed third downs to be converted 37.6 percent of the time. Even Randy Shannon’s 2017 defense wasn’t that bad (33.8).

His defenses have averaged giving up 7.2 yards per attempt  over his three seasons,  which would have ranked 50th against FBS in 2019. That’s with two seasons of a lock-down, first-round draft pick manning the boundary.

In a game that is moving more towards throwing the ball all over the lot, that’s just not good enough.

So I guess that’s the metric I’d look at for 2021 were I a Gator fan.

In 2015 and 2016, the Gators defenses gave up 6.0 and 5.9 yards per pass, respectively. Grantham and Mullen decided their issues against the pass were due to Torrian Gray and Ron English. That means if it doesn’t improve to levels we’ve seen in Gainesville before, then it has to be Grantham’s fault.

And we’ll be right back where we were at the end of 2020.

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23 Comments

  1. Tom

    I was done with Grantham after the LSU loss, that was his Georgia Southern moment as far as I was concerned. The shoe throwing incident being only the exclamation point to follow the “THE END”. As far as Mullen’s loyalty to Grantham, I saw the same thing happen with Richt when he was at UGA with Bobo as his OC. I know some are of the opinion that Bobo is a quality product, I’ve never felt that way based again on what I saw with him when he was at UGA.

    You today as well as previously layed out a pretty strong case on why Grantham needed to go, the fact that he’s still here should put the focus squarely on Mullen for the 2021 season. A part of me has begun to question whether Mullen is simply a Great OC and QB whisper only and not destined to ever be a great HBC? Again 2021 will be the year to settle this as well as many other questions about the state of Gator football moving forward.

    • Coach Chomp

      It’s not Grantham. Grantham’s defense is good enough to make a couple of stops, that’s basically all that’s needed. The offense should be able to clean up any mess the defense makes. In this article it seems Will Miles is comparing historical statistics to production of today. Doesn’t matter what history did, what matters is what we are adjusting to today, especially on offense.

      • Jm

        You are kidding right?!? Number one the defense limited no one, this defense cost us an SEC championship, a playoff, possibly a national championship and consideration for Trask for the heisman (due to the loses that weren’t his fault). No offense can be perfect and that was what was needed for the better teams we played. I am disappointed in Mullen like the other poster wrote, it looks like he’s going to be a great OC but not a great head coach. But beyond that loyalty, where is the loyalty to your players. Grantham should be replaced because it was the right thing for the team. If Mullen doesn’t see that then he’s not the coach I thought he was.

      • Spike

        Is that you Dan?

  2. Jeremy

    Well thought out article with strong statistics to back your opinion. From what I see, Mullen’s quirky personality and poor leadership has come to light in the post game conference of each lost this season. Where is the “thumb wrestling” competitive spirit Mullen was preaching? The lack of accountability and self awareness reminds me of why there were low ceiling expectations when he was hired. Now that he has spurned half of Gator nation with blind loyalty, he’ll likely be on the hot seat if Grantham doesn’t turn things around.

    • cking

      It was an interesting read for sure…but it completely ignored the part where this defense had to play an all SEC schedule. Seems like a fairly large oversight.

      That said, not a fan of Grantham and am pretty disappointed Mullen is keeping him around.

  3. Wade Krett

    Stats are tough sometimes. I personally think Grantham should go and that delaying his firing is delaying the inevitable. However, these game has changed quite a bit from 2015 to 2020. It only seems like 5 year but the offenses have come to dominate college football in 2020 much more than they were in 2015. In 2020, did any team outside of Cinncinati have a defense that a team could hang its hat on? Maybe UGA? Even those teams at some point would tire out. Gone are the Muschamp elite defenses imo. That being said, the 2020 Gator defense was terrible. Not getting lined up on time; stupid penalties at inopportune times; inability to get off the field (i.e. third down stops v Bama; think about all of the third and forever conversion UM had in ’19 vs UF; etc.). This defense just didn’t look good; in fact they looked poor.

  4. Don Parlamento

    Maybe he will leave for another job. That gives Mullen an out. If not then I agree, it’s all on Mullen to improve this defense.

  5. Mike

    Will thanks for putting so much time and effort into your job ! You
    are the only local media person that does . Dooley has mailed it in for decades

  6. Mike

    The secondary has been the worst coached in my 60 plus years as a gator fan . They showed zero improvement. Very soft coverage , even softer tackling . I’ve seen pop Warner teams that tackle with more physical wrapping up technique . I can’t remember one hard hitting physical tackle all year .Marco Wilson would be better off playing flag football. He was rarely within 5 yards of the receiver he didn’t cover .

  7. Robert

    My personal opinion is that Grantham should go. I also believe that Florida needs a top person to oversee recruiting and it needs to be expanded to a national program. Right now the top SEC teams are Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M and LSU. I don’t even rank Florida in the top 50%. Mullen is the problem and will eventually be removed. I don’t see that he will ever win a SEC championship much less a National championship. Too many excuses!

  8. Fred

    Will;

    Always appreciate your passion for Gator football first and foremost, then you do a thorough job with analytics and expressing your opinion. As always everyone has elbows and opinions, including CDM – who is the head honcho.

    Your comments and those of the readers are spot on in many respects. Mullen’s immaturity as a executive leader was revealed in each press conference after the losses this year, as well as at half time of some of those games. Another article pointed out that CDM is 48, Saban did not win his first Natty until he was 52. Hopefully the Gator program offers executive coaching to their leaders (which I believe they do) and now would the appropriate time to address some of these boorish and immature behaviors and comments. It’s one thing to be the HC at MSU, quite another to be the HBC at UF. Time will tell if CDM has learned from these ‘teachable moments.’

    As a coach I measure 3rd down stops, not as a percentage but as 1 point for each punt forced or take away, and 1/2 point for a FG. In today’s game teams want 6-12 possessions per game. The knock on Grantham has been the defenses inability to get off the field on 3rd down, your stat puts them at roughly 33%. The A & M game is a great example of the defense not coming away with more than 1-2 points, Bama as well – although they did get a point for the Trey Dean interception just to give it right back. So why can’t these Gators get off the field on 3rd down against top tier teams?

    CDM said before the bowl game and after the SEC championship he would evaluate the staff post season, then make whatever adjustments were necessary – then added it makes no sense to cut your entire arm off if that is not the root cause of the pain (my paraphrase). He changed the secondary staff. In his opinion, right or wrong, this was a root cause. While his loyalty is admirable, and we’ll see how that plays out in ‘21. Leadership strengths when extended can become blind spots – which we will see as the spring and season unfold.

    There is quite a bit of vitriol pointed in Grantham’s direction; some of it justified. On the other hand I wonder if part of the root cause are the Jimmy and Joe’s. Permit to offer some examples. Vs A & M their MLB made a great play on Davis to force the fumble at the end of the game. Their guy won that play. Bama’s #6 made an incredible hustle play to knock the ball loose from Dean, Bama’s player won that play. 2 years ago vs. UGA we had momentum on our side with 2 minutes left in the half, Fromm hit the tight end not once but 4 straight times and finally for a TD. I know for a fact the scouting report and the play calls at that point in the game focused on a LB being responsible for coverage. It did not happen and the UGA players made the plays. The defensive call and coverage was spot on, our guy did not execute. My point is simply players have to make plays, all the coaches can do is put them in a position to do so. Davis had the ball tucked away and protected, the AM and M kid just made an incredible play. End of story.

    With that said roster make-up has been discussed and everyone was well aware it was unbalanced when CDM arrived. There are those who Pooh-Pooh this incoming class, for not rising to the level of Bama, Clemson, LSU, et al. It is Mullen’s strongest class, especially the back end of the defense. Does CDM need to take it up a notch on the recruiting side, yes and no. We need character as well as talent, 3rd down stops are often a matter of will and determination. We did not see much of that on the defensive side this year.

    I believe in CDM’s ability to adapt and adjust on the offensive side of the ball with whatever talent he has. Now we will see if Grantham can adapt and adjust and overcome on the defensive side. Jerry Odom mentioned a coup[le of weeks ago that offenses move so fast in today’s game that defenses cannot operate with complicated calls, it almost has to be a one word call that applies to the entire field. (My paraphrase). I’ve not been on the sidelines or practice field to hear the calls – but if there’s one adjustment to be made this would it, simplify it and let the athletes play.

    Go Gators!

    • Stevebr

      Leaving a LB on a good TE is like expecting an opposing LB to defend Pitts this year. It will never happen, and is a weak spot in your defense that all opposing offenses should target.

      Our LBs are not good in coverage. They don’t consistently drop into proper zones and are weak in man to man. TAM schemed up their WR on our LB on a must stop 3rd down, and TAM predictably converted said 3rd down. Our secondary scheme and play has regressed over the time Grantham has been here, and good teams take advantage of it.

  9. Guy Fawkes

    Grantham is a turd. How is the abysmal performance week after week after week not laid directly at his feet.

    • Ray chapman

      Damn right. Week after week after week.
      And not against good talent week after week either.
      Mullen has chosen to be fired. Or asked to leave after this season.
      Period. It’s such a shame because we’ve been through so much.
      And he comes here and pulls this crap.
      They ruind Trask chance for the , Heisman,
      With Lsu debacle.
      What was that crap @ the orange bowl?
      Need to recruit some brains to go with all the bodies.
      There , I said it.

  10. I THINK COACH MULLEN HAS THE ABILITY TO WIN BIG. MAYBE GRANTHEM HAS HIS FAULTS, BUT BET HE SEES HIS FUTURE DEPENDING ON A MUCH IMPROVED DEFENSE IN 21 SEASON. NOW COMING SOON…THAT PLAYER PAY AND LEGAL ENDORSEMENT CASH NONSENSE….THE SCHOOLS THAT PAY THE MOST WILL GET THE TOP PLAYERS. RECRUITING WILL COME DOWN TO “HOW MUCH YOU GUNNA PAY ME TO SIGN?” UF IS NOT GOING TO COMPETE WITH LSU, DAWGS, BAMA OR AUBURN. SOME HAVE ETHICS SOME DON’T.

  11. Thanks for the article, Will! This is one of those times where I think you are right but I hope you are wrong. I thought Grantham was done after the last 3 games. Now I can just hope he takes a job and we get a new DC. I am like you, I don’t call on firing people easily, but I have seen enough. Hopefully the defense is better in 2021, one way or another. Go Gators!

  12. Hal George

    I consider coach Mullen to be a top 8 coach, guide capable of hiring a 1st class coordinator.

  13. Great article; hopefully Dan Mullen will read it
    Additionally, Todd Grantham should address the Gator Nation, and outline in specific terms his plans to improve the defense – no Willie Taggart BS.

  14. Great article, Will. It’s a shame and a hard call to make but Grantham has to go for the greater good…it’s as simple as that. In remembrance of Kiffin’s firing and being left on the tarmac by USC, my buddies and I have had a refrain most of the season – Tarmac his ass. It’s time.

  15. Kyle Dominguez

    I think coach Mullen is a great coach, and he can scheme up plays. What concerns me the most is that Florida can’t run the ball, and he has been there 3 years. He had a generational player in Pitts and Toney. The offense next season will not be as explosive, and people will see the real Gators, a consistent 2 or 3 loss SEC team.

    Florida is probably the best 2nd tier team in the SEC.

    You are right, coach Mullen does contradict himself. He states that his team has no killer instinct, nor know how to finish a game.

    His coaching staff needs to know how to finish a game/ season also.

    Will Grier and Mcelwain looked more sustainable than Mullen’s offense

    They

  16. Spike

    The penalties are key times for the defense to me are not a Grantham problem. That had been going on for a decade or longer at UF. Historically they were usually personal foul penalties in droves. That has lessened but we have similar dumb penalties like off sides but being fair, Mullens teams no offense and defense this year were penalized far less than Spurrier, Meyer and Muschamp teams. So to me I don’t find that an issue.

    Mullen had no prior relationship with Torrian Gray so no need for him to be loyal to his people in that case so to,Mullen it is the easiest person to fire on a personal level, whether warranted or not. English has been horrible from the start and should have been canned last year.

    Personally I would have moved on from Grantham too. To me, Mullen seems to have chosen loyalty to a friend over improving his team, blindly hoping things turn around. Managers in every profession are guilty of keeping friends on the payroll. And it can eventually cost them their jobs and it may down the road here too.

    The press conference stuff? I don’t care what he says or how he acts. I may be a UF grad but I don’t get my self esteem from anything my former university does or doesn’t do, and that includes the head coach. I don’t really care (barring something major and words to me are not important- don’t care).

    What actually bothered me the most was the lack of accountability on Wilson’s shoe toss. Not removed from the game and started the next game. Even if they handled it behind closed doors – like running steps or something (and based on what Mullen and Todd said about the incident it actually seemed like they thought Marco didn’t do anything wrong so I doubt he even ran steps) – the fact that behavior like that wasn’t dealt with at all, is unbelievable and shows poor leadership. Could have simply made him sit one quarter against Bama or even just the first series. But nothing.

    The most shocking thing I read in Wills article was that Stiner started as a freshman. So we had 4 lovely years of Stiner playing meaningful and major snaps of incompetence for four years. Wow.

  17. Gator Shane

    Wow – lots of Mullen crushing in here. Not thrilled he’s bringing Grantham back – 3rd and Grantham is an SEC axiom for TD for the other team. Still Mullen has worked wonders in his first 3 years and has us relevant again.